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Python 1.6 progress =================== David Ascher announced the first beta release of ActivePython 1.6, build 100. "ActivePython contains the convenience of swift installation, coupled with commonly used modules, providing you with a total package to meets your Python needs. Additionally, for Windows users, ActivePython provides a suite of Windows tools, developed by Mark Hammond." http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2000-August/008835.html The binary distribution can be downloaded from: http://www.ActiveState.com/Products/ActivePython/ Python 2.0 progress =================== The current plan is to release Python 2.0b1 around Monday, Sept. 4. This represents a slip of about a week from the previously planned date. The release is *very* close now, since the flurry of patches is now focusing on cosmetic matters such as READMEs and NEWS files. At this point, 2.0 is considered to be in feature freeze; any PEPs that haven't been rejected outright will have to be postponed until Python 2.1 (or whatever the next version is numbered). After months of discussion, the augmented assignment patch was checked in. Python 2.0 will support statements such as 'L[3] += 1' as C does, though there's no ++ or -- to increment or decrement by 1. The patch was written by Thomas Wouters, using changes to Python's grammar by Michael Hudson. Thomas also spearheaded a patch for renaming objects on import that quickly went through a few versions, and was checked in. The patch adds 'import name1 as name2' and 'from module import name1 as name2' as legal Python syntax. Not all the suggested language changes went in; a patch to add range literals was defeated. The patch would have made 'for i in [1:10]' equivalent to 'for i in range(1,10)'. The general reaction was that people liked the idea, but no one was very enamored of the [1:10] syntax. Tim Peters's opinion is representative. "As the reviewer, I spent about 2 hours playing with it, trying it out in my code. And I simply liked it less the more I used it." In the same posting Tim proposed an alternate syntax inspired by Haskell. http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2000-August/008864.html Tim Peters wrote a PEP, #223, enshrining the change to the interpretation of \x (as mentioned in the previous python-dev summary): http://python.sourceforge.net/peps/pep-0223.html Certain unlimited recursions can make Python dump core; there's a maximum recursion limit, but certain execution paths can sidestep the limit checks and run until the stack overflows and the interpreter dies. On Windows and MacOS, there's a PyOS_CheckStack() function that can check whether the stack is nearing overflow. Jeremy Hylton wondered about whether it's possible to write a similar function for Unix. Start with Jeremy's post and then read the lengthy resulting thread: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2000-August/008904.html Near the end of the month, a discussion started about the possibility of adding a pragma statement. M.-A. Lemburg: "I've been tossing some ideas around w/r to adding pragma style declarations to Python and would like to hear what you think about these: ..." http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2000-August/008833.html Greg Wilson was supportive but warned that the mechanism should be a general one: "Pragmas are a way to give instructions to the interpreter; when you let people give something instructions, you're letting them program it, and I think it's best to design your mechanism from the start to support that." http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2000-August/008893.html Greg Ewing, on the other hand, thought pragmas are a bad idea: "As this discussion demonstrates, it's far too fuzzy and open-ended a concept -- nobody can agree on what sort of thing a pragma is supposed to be." http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2000-August/008979.html A mailing list was created to discuss BeOpen.com's license for Python 2.0: http://mailman.beopen.com/mailman/listinfo/license-py20 Guido's announcement: "Now that the CNRI license issues are nearly settled, BeOpen.com needs to put its own license on Python 2.0 (as a derivative work of CNRI's Python 1.6) too. We want an open discussion about the new license with the Python community, and have established a mailing list for this purpose." http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2000-August/008856.html Other matters ============= comp.lang.python.announce is finally back! Only a single moderator was named in the CFV for c.l.py.a, and he's been busy or otherwise difficult to contact for a long time, so the newsgroup has been effectively dead. The problem has now been solved, by giving Mailman the ability to gateway a mailing list to a moderated newsgroup and creating a list of moderators who can approve postings. Submissions should be sent to <python-announce@python.org>. There was some worrying on python-list about whether changes are being added too quickly to Python 2.0, resulting in less stability. Skip Montanaro wrote a rebuttal: "Many of the things that are new in 2.0 have been proposed on the list off and on for a long time. Unicode support, list comprehensions, augmented assignment and extensions to the print statement come to mind. They are not new ideas tossed in with a beer chaser (like "<blink>")." http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2000-August/008811.html Tim O'Malley's Cookie.py module has been added to the standard library. Some subsequent discussion followed about whether to drop the SerialCookie and SmartCookie classes, since they unpickle untrusted data, and are therefore unsafe: "Question: should SerialCookie and SmartCookie be removed? If they're not there, people won't accidentally use them because they didn't read the docs and missed the warning." http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2000-August/008957.html Barry Warsaw checked in his Python implementation of a gettext module, for internationalizing programs by providing translations of output messages: "My goal was to build a fast C wrapper module around the C library, and to provide a pure Python implementation of an identical API for platforms without GNU gettext." http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2000-August/008537.html Charles Waldman finally tracked down the cause of the mysterious test_fork1.py crash, and submitted a patch to fix it that was accepted: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2000-August/008558.html AMK suggested adding a convenience API function to insert an integer into a module dictionary, since several modules contain duplicated code to do that. "Suggested prototype and name: PyDict_InsertInteger(dict *, string, long)" http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2000-August/008498.html |